Ryan had been on a hiatus for several months from his last band and was getting very sick and tired of jamming with random people all the time who were all into the same "Jam Band" style, and the thought of jamming with someone, from what he was told by his brother, "knows every Nirvana song," was at least to say not that enticing. So after about two hours of sitting through cover song after cover song, Ryan was pretty sure this was a one time deal. Lucky enough for the bands sake, Jims little brother Brad had already started coming up with names for the "Band" and wouldn't take a "no" from Ryan.